We all carry a fragment of the Creator within us.
We are all capable of creating.
We are all gods.
All of us.
daamnnn dude. this just got personal with you sniping at el. you in for it now
Both A and B.
So C.
Really Lucy, my disdain is focused on heresy and irreverence. Let me ask you, do you consider yourself to be God?
Et tu Elric, at every opportunity, stick the knife in with ridiculous and unrelated hatred. You make the point well, however the arrow of guilt points back at ya.
Apparent free will. Let me ask you, did you embark on a gall stone calamity by your own free will or did it come up out of nowhere? What we sow we reap. Did you at any time during your illness, turn to prayer for assistance? I did..for you!
You asked after my wife. She was very concerned about going under the knife, anaesthetics are not good for old people..as you know. So we turned to prayer and she is walking well now, not stopping to wait for the muscles to be oxygenated. She just had multiple ultrasounds, cranial, aortic and bi-lateral and all results have come back with flying colours.
Do you wear reading glasses Elric? I have done so for over ten years and in recent times I noticed that the glasses are no longer necessary, my 20/20 vision has returned. How so???
I asked you to mail me so that I could explain why I must remain anon, however your response was to remind you, in other words, you have no interest in conversing. So be it.
What is really upsetting is that many who do respect God have read this and not offered their support or opinion. Lukewarm is fence sitting, which is fraught with indecision all around. I do not know you!
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2010%3A14&version=NIV
Scripture tells us that Jesus upturned the tables of the money changers in the Temple. He did so as the Temple is sacred and dedicated to honouring God, not profiteering. This video provides a heads-up for those who defile the name of God.
“stick the knife in with ridiculous and unrelated hatred” Hatred Max?
Where the hell did that come from? . . . . . oh I see, you’re self projecting.
Hating another is like drinking poison in the hope that it will harm them. Now that would be really silly and “ridiculous”, am I right Max?
No I don’t hate individuals. I might at times hate anothers actions but that’s another thing entirely.
You should know that one Max, to ‘hate the sin not the sinner’, right?
To even suggest such a thing is a bit hysterical. [Are you feeling okay or just having a moment?]
No, no hatred from me Max [though you really should get help for that Max . . . yes the self projection. Just take a deep breath and then just let it go. It really is that easy. Hand your hatred to Jesus. He’ll know what to do with it 
]
Good to hear that your missus is on the mend. I know exactly what she’s been through. Ischemic pain is not fun.
Thank you for the prayers Max and yes, I called on Gods physician, Archangel Rafael 
Only the best for one of Gods children
You ask if I chose my “gall stone calamity” willingly? Now that’s a very silly question to ask Max.
There’s a reason why I suffered from gall stones but unfortunately I don’t know why exactly.
All one can do is to endure without too much whinging.
Apart from the fact that I’m still recovering from the nasty virus that hit me hard that’s left me way behind with my correspondence, you have a real vicious streak that gives me pause for concern.
I really don’t know who you are or what you’re capable of doing when you’re ‘having a moment’.
My email address contains my full name. It’s because I talk openly on the forum about things that could get me into trouble, I also need to protect my anonymity
If you were really keen to share privately, there’s nothing to stop you from opening an account and sending me a PM.
There you are, I have been waiting all day for you…as have your supporters it seems. I noticed that you are referred to as El… well doesn’t that knock your socks off? [El is a common Semitic root for god, and it is related to the Arabic word Allah. In the Hebrew Bible, El Shaddai (Almighty God) and El Elyon (God Most High) are also ways to refer to Yahweh.] No wonder you and Sky Daddy, I mean sky pussy get on so well…you are both god. Two for the price of one.. fuck yeah! No wait, I see that Lucy is a god also.. that is a triune godhead if I ever saw one. BTW.. Lucy, if there is a grand Creator God, as you have indicated, it stands to reason that we (as the created gods) should show reverence and respect…which is the crux of my argument in light of the thread meme.
El, (hope that is respectful) I was not using your illness as a lance in the side, it was as an example of recent events that had a big impact on your life..and that of Bruce. You answered correctly, everything has a reason for unfolding and you don’t know the reason, but God does, which may clarify my intent relating to your statement that God does not know everything. The illness turned your world upside down and your concerns for Bruce at the time were palpable. If I was nearby I would have seen to his welfare, to alleviate one worry. Unfortunately, I am four hours away and at the time my wifes health took precedence.
Your reputation precedes you Elric, I noted Digby mention your penchant for putting all and sundry into place..to which you blissfully denied. I have seen you tear people down like a mongrel dog and Muslims are fair prey. You should take the time to read the Qu’ran as your ideology aligns almost exactly with theirs. Like Mohammad, you believe that Jesus was just a rabbi, that he did not die for anyone and His mission here was nothing more than a teacher and prophet. You are missing out on the opportunity to step up to the plate by such a denial. I mean, even our time is referenced to His birth, He must be a special rabbi to hold that honour…No?
To be honest, I am quite disgusted by the attitude here, “cleanse the unholy fuckery”..you are kidding me right? No. wrong, you have no spirit worth saving, you have admitted it yourself. There is no logical debate, not one of my posts have been rebutted with anything short of character assassination. This is not the place for me, it is debased and unclean, it is destined for an immanent demise with such attitudes and the time we find ourselves..apart from the fact that once the war breaks out, the internet will be greatly compromised. God mentioned in the Word that there will be persecution of Christians in these days..exactly like the comments in these pages. Funny about that! Did God know..right here is the proof!
And here from a pretty lady who loves Jesus.
And then I was led here, which confirms my own warnings about mixing with those who throw stones.
In closing, hands up all those who would like me to open an account, so I can PM El why such action is disastrous for all. Anyone? Nope, well that seals the deal. Goodbye to bad rubbish..who makes you think about the idiocy of denying God or worse, proclaiming to be God or gods as the ego insists.
[quote=“Lucy Barnable”]We all carry a fragment of the Creator within us.
We are all capable of creating.
We are all gods.
All of us.[/quote]
You can proudly call your Self, God, Lucy, as you should(!) and as anyone who Knows The Truth shall do. There is nothing “wrong” in doing so (in fact, the opposite is true.) Due to the terribly distorted programming of (especially) the Abrahamic religions, humans have been heavily indoctrinated to be believe in authority (something that doesn’t exist) and (heavily) programmed to “therefore” believe “that God is therefore the ultimate authority” and “therefore has power over everyone” and “therefore it is anathema to be like God”. These are the constructs of hierarchical systems, and each and every one of these systems exists for one reason and one reason only: Control. Within this part of our Universe, The Fallen Angelic entities YaHWeH and Allah are the heads of two such systems of control. Making their systems into religions on Earth was part of what was required in order to gain control over this planet. The process of appointing priests as part of the hierarchy wasn’t difficult, not unlike appointing ministers in governments.
The entirely FALSE belief in “an external God” is the first trick that had to be pulled off. The Original Humans never knew anything of the sort, the concept was abhorrent to them because they Knew otherwise. Once God was able to be separated out from what was always God, the false dogma control system(s) could be implemented.
God was always Inside you, As You. It is what Christ (the real one, not the second tier one) taught. He reminded people of it because of how much it had been forgotten.
This planet is so full of distortions that it is astounding; nevertheless, “Where there’s life there’s hope.” It is because people of Earth are descended from Original Humans that any amount of intervention and care is given in the first place.
Well I hope you didn’t hold your breath Maxie [Hope you don’t mind me calling you Maxie] You see, I’ve got other things to do, places to go and people to see.
Not that your reply was worth waiting for. You just can’t help yourself, you’re rude and abusive and you can’t help but drag others into your little drama.
Although Sky Cat and I started off here on shaky ground, I’ve since learnt that the man is an intelligent and quite a spiritually aware individual. SC has earnedmy respect with his knowledge, his wisdom and by the respectful way that he interacts with others.
I’ve actually learnt things from SC. Fancy that ay?
Unfortunately I’m unable to say the same about you Maxie.
And why on earth would you drag Lucy into your shit fight? She’s a lovely lady who deserves better from the likes of you.
Bruce? Well that’s a nice sentiment Maxie but Bruce does not tolerate strangers. He would have tried to get through the fence to get at you.
A couple of friends who Bruce has become very fond of looked after him during my hospital stay.
Digby was a disrespectful imbecile who considered himself an expert on any given subject.
Yes muslims are fair game. Anyone who reveres a paedophile, who backstabbed his ‘friends’ and who slaughtered and raped his way through life really do need to be told. That and also that Allah is a demon
I’ve got a copy of the Quran. From what I’ve read I’m not impressed. Any book that condones paedophilia and exhorts the murder of nonbelievers is of a Satanic nature AFAIC.
My ideology has nothing in common with Islam. That’s just a bald faced lie. D eceiver
You’re a monster Maxie. For shame]
You sound confused Maxie; Pedo Mo was not a Rabbi. Not only that but I’ve recently learnt that Jesus was NOT a Jew.
When the Bible refers to Jesus as a “Rabbi” it’s a mistranslation of the word “teacher”.
But hey, if you want to swallow the official church narrative then that’s your prerogative.
“cleanse the unholy fuckery”? What are you on about Maxie? It sounds like you’re losing it.
They’re your words not mine. Deceiver! [Baby Jesus is now sobbing like a, well sobbing like a baby. SMH]
“you have no spirit worth saving, you have admitted it yourself” When? Where? You’re a liarand a **deceiver.**You’ve not read the “Thou shalt not bear false witness” verse or do you just ignore it? You’re not even capable of practicing what you preach are you Maxie? We have a word for that.
And what a disgusting thing to say to another. That’s just ugly. Why do you choose to be ugly Maxie? Is that what Jesus would do?
“character assassination”? The only person who I’ve read being rude and attempting to cut others down is you Maxie.
Sadly I’ve learnt not to expect any better from evangelical types like yourself. When you make no headway with your Doctrine of Fear you turn nasty and vicious. Is that what Jesus would do?
Oh wait, he taught followers to “Live like a shining light” so that others may be drawn to you.
you’re nothing like a shining light Maxi. [You’re more like a pile of vomit] I thought you said that you follow Jesus? Why do you ignore his teachings?
As to your offer Maxie, thanks anyway but you’ve got nothing I want, you’ve got nothing I need.
Just watched the vids;
Oh no, the Pharisees and religious spirits are coming for the pretty lady with the seductive accent! 
Umm don’t Christians know how to protect themselves against negative entities and from negative influence?
Are they so flaky that they’re so easily led astray from the Path of Righteousness?
In the second vid we are warned “They are not for you. They are fake” Yes, lots and lots of false prophets and people who claim to be followers of Jesus who are in reality **liars!**and deceivers!
We’ve been warned . . . . 
[quote=“Max El Cabong”]There you are, I have been waiting all day for you…as have your supporters it seems. I noticed that you are referred to as El… well doesn’t that knock your socks off? [El is a common Semitic root for god, and it is related to the Arabic word Allah. In the Hebrew Bible, El Shaddai (Almighty God) and El Elyon (God Most High) are also ways to refer to Yahweh.] No wonder you and Sky Daddy, I mean sky pussy get on so well…you are both god. Two for the price of one.. fuck yeah! No wait, I see that Lucy is a god also.. that is a triune godhead if I ever saw one. BTW.. Lucy, if there is a grand Creator God, as you have indicated, it stands to reason that we (as the created gods) should show reverence and respect…which is the crux of my argument in light of the thread meme.
El, (hope that is respectful) I was not using your illness as a lance in the side, it was as an example of recent events that had a big impact on your life..and that of Bruce. You answered correctly, everything has a reason for unfolding and you don’t know the reason, but God does, which may clarify my intent relating to your statement that God does not know everything. The illness turned your world upside down and your concerns for Bruce at the time were palpable. If I was nearby I would have seen to his welfare, to alleviate one worry. Unfortunately, I am four hours away and at the time my wifes health took precedence.
Your reputation precedes you Elric, I noted Digby mention your penchant for putting all and sundry into place..to which you blissfully denied. I have seen you tear people down like a mongrel dog and Muslims are fair prey. You should take the time to read the Qu’ran as your ideology aligns almost exactly with theirs. Like Mohammad, you believe that Jesus was just a rabbi, that he did not die for anyone and His mission here was nothing more than a teacher and prophet. You are missing out on the opportunity to step up to the plate by such a denial. I mean, even our time is referenced to His birth, He must be a special rabbi to hold that honour…No?
To be honest, I am quite disgusted by the attitude here, “cleanse the unholy fuckery”..you are kidding me right? No. wrong, you have no spirit worth saving, you have admitted it yourself. There is no logical debate, not one of my posts have been rebutted with anything short of character assassination. This is not the place for me, it is debased and unclean, it is destined for an immanent demise with such attitudes and the time we find ourselves..apart from the fact that once the war breaks out, the internet will be greatly compromised. God mentioned in the Word that there will be persecution of Christians in these days..exactly like the comments in these pages. Funny about that! Did God know..right here is the proof!
And here from a pretty lady who loves Jesus.
And then I was led here, which confirms my own warnings about mixing with those who throw stones.
In closing, hands up all those who would like me to open an account, so I can PM El why such action is disastrous for all. Anyone? Nope, well that seals the deal. Goodbye to bad rubbish..who makes you think about the idiocy of denying God or worse, proclaiming to be God or gods as the ego insists.[/quote]
if you don’t like it here, why do you keep coming back here and riling stuff up then? if you claim this is some blasphemous hellhole with members that is beyond saving then what’s your angle? just to try and make people upset or something? there are tons and tons of threads here. this god one isn’t the only damn thing on this site. and yet you judge everyone based on thoughts on God or what it is.
If the internet goes away then we have no control over that. but we do have control over what we can use it for now. I’ll cross that bridge if it happens if they shut down everything. but I doubt that will ever happen. I have been hearing proclamations and shit like that over “internet will be shut down” since the late 2000s. It’s tiresome by now. We have to focus on us being together here, right now. not worry about something that may or may not happen.
you routinely go from gentle to passive aggressive in the same paragraphs. I think you just want to egg people on. It’s really showing who you are.
[quote=“Skyrison”]waiting for elric to come
Ah so that’s what Maxie was referring to.
[Strange how all these posts only just came up on my page]
Like so many internet evangelists who think that they have all the answers, Maxie showed his true colours and resorted to cheap insult when others failed to recognise his self delusional beliefs that he holds some deep, profound secret understanding.
[And he made baby Jesus cry. What a monster]
Thanks for the kind words, Elric. Yes, we may not be on the exact same page with everything and we may sometimes disagree and a time or two we may not have seen eye-to-eye but that has also not given us any reason to treat each other in anything other than a respectful manner. It is what makes this forum unique. We learn from each other, and if we did not and there wasn’t anything new to encounter then how boring might that be?
What always amazes me about these rabid religious types when they feel that they “must share”, is that it seems they somehow think people haven’t heard about their bible stories and dogma before; for goodness sakes the world has heard it a million times before! *facepalm* They present nothing new at all, just the same old banal and platitude-filled “messages”, over and over and over again, and then they are “surprised” when they test people’s patience? What on earth possesses them to go to random forums and “share” the same old stuff again??? Oh, that’s right, they are “commanded to”. Well, that simply makes them robots and, meh, I have no time for conversing with robots.
So to me it seems that god may be energy. I do not believe it is a living entity like you or me or some giant man in the clouds. I do not believe it is some big figurative being that is a giant. People have that all wrong. It could very well be that god in the traditional sense is an energy source that perhaps is scattered throughout the whole universe and the more good that we do and the more virtue that we have. And the more light that is within us, we feel good and the vibrations are there to match it. That is what being on the right path is about. You want to feel as good as possible at all times.
And doing good things causes good vibrations and saying good things also causes good vibrations. Therefore everybody that wants to be of good and of light will constantly cause these vibrations. That can be interpreted as an energy that can be interpreted as god as well.
It could very well be that through human existence, the only way that we as a collective could explain any of this is through one single word to simplify it all, so we aren’t all caught up with each other and trying to figure out what these thoughts and feelings are.
Saying the word god is just simplifying all of that which is going on in the universe at every single moment. Every single second, there is energy that is surrounding us and every single second that energy is there to be used for good or bad.
I am a believer in energy and it is proven. I am also a bit spiritual, but I don’t necessarily believe in a being that is a god. But that does not mean that one should criticize another one for believing in such things… every single person has their own belief and spin on what god is you ask a hundred different people and you get 200 different answers. It is a belief system, it is not a set in stone system.
Whatever belief it is or whatever system that you live by or whatever code that you live by in life that causes these great vibrations and dignities and virtues towards the light that make you think and feel good. That is all valid. There doesn’t have to be a set in stone one belief that’s all or you are a blasphemmer…
There are constant battles between the dark energy and light energy and we must see. That is pure fact it is backed up by science. Backed up by things that happen, such as continuity and synchronicity. Maybe there is a bit of both of spirituality and science within this god explanation.
I never thought I would take interest in a thread about religion or god, but here we are. You guys make some pretty good points here and have some interesting views this is kind of exciting. Not going to lie.
Great discussion. It is refreshing that so many of us here share similar sentiments on this subject.
To Max: You will not burn in hell for allowing yourself to contemplate that which goes against your programming. You are already in hell in a sense. Your friends intentions here are benevolent. You hold the keys though to set yourself free.
Agreed
I do not believe it is a living entity like you or me or some giant man in the clouds.
Agreed, that would be simple anthropomorphisation.
It could very well be that god in the traditional sense is an energy source that perhaps is scattered throughout the whole universe and the more good that we do and the more virtue that we have. And the more light that is within us, we feel good and the vibrations are there to match it. That is what being on the right path is about.
Fair enough
You want to feel as good as possible at all times.
I would say that a lot of the time feeling good is an indicator of “the right path”, however, sometimes, one can feel quite bad (even physically so) due to clearing of distortions; and so feeling bad due to the clearing of distortions can also be an indicator being on “the right path”. So, too, can feeling good because of a distortion, be an indicator of being on “the wrong path”. So what then is “the right path”? I could put it in to fairly technical terms, however suffice to say it is: What your Highest Self wishes to align with. (The soul is actually a fairly “low” Self, though still technically a Higher Self.) Ultimately what is one’s Path also speaks to the type of Person (ultimately) that one is. (Lots could be said on the subject.) Of course, “the right path” is therefore objectively subjective. People like to sometimes deal in ‘relative truths’ and that may be fine for some purposes or ways of choosing to view things, yet there always remains an all-encompassing Truth or greater objective Truth upon which things can be measured should one wish to (which only seems sensible.)
And doing good things causes good vibrations and saying good things also causes good vibrations. Therefore everybody that wants to be of good and of light will constantly cause these vibrations. That can be interpreted as an energy that can be interpreted as god as well.
As much as I prefer not to use the words “good” and “bad”, the meaning is understood.
Saying the word god is just simplifying all of that which is going on in the universe at every single moment. Every single second, there is energy that is surrounding us and every single second that energy is there to be used for good or bad.
Yes, and I prefer not to use the word, however it is a word that is understood by most people and so I use it to keep things simple. It’s unfortunate that it needs using because it comes with a ton of baggage and its meaning is distorted.
There doesn’t have to be a set in stone one belief that’s all or you are a blasphemmer…
Indeed. It is only the strongly religious who believe that (their) beliefs, or lack thereof, actually make a difference to life or afterlife. They treat their beliefs like pets; cherish them and protect them, and ‘take offence’ when they perceive them “under attack”. Nevertheless, even those of strong religious conviction often mistake their Higher Selves for “God”. They say their prayers are answered, and often they are, despite their beliefs.
There are constant battles between the dark energy and light energy
On a Cosmic scale
… and you would not find it exciting if it weren’t for some pure Divine Spark within you.
[quote=“God Man”]Great discussion. It is refreshing that so many of us here share similar sentiments on this subject.
To Max: You will not burn in hell for allowing yourself to contemplate that which goes against your programming. You are already in hell in a sense. Your friends intentions here are benevolent. You hold the keys though to set yourself free.[/quote]
Well, your name fits right in with this thread!
I am glad you find it refreshing
BELIEF IN SELF IS THE ROAD DEATH
FOR
THERE IS NO POWER OR AUTHORITY IN SELF TO SAVE YOU
WE ARE BORN AS SLAVES TO SATAN
THE LIE HE TOLD
WAS
YOU ARE AS THE GODS
BELIEVE IN YOURSELF
THATS THE FASTEST WAY TO DIE
HOWEVER
LIFE EVERLASTING COMES FROM ONLY ONE SOURCE
JESUS CHRIST
THE AUTHOR OF LIFE EVERLASTING
ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST
IS TO SHARE IN LIFE PROVIDED BY JESUS CHRIST
DENIAL OF JESUS CHRIST IS DEATH