[quote=“Skyrison”]Capitalism requires infinite growth. and there is no such thing as infinite growth. The train ride can only last so long before it crashes. then we may as well be ushered into something worse than we could ever imagine. you may be right that communism is always ushered in at the end of “free market rule” and then the cycle starts again because people get sick of “the wheel” and change it up. very interesting take on it. Capitalism has allowed for many great things and for countries to be built up. I don’t think there is a better alternative right now. and communism just leads to socialism which is not good at all.
I don’t think you are arguing for one or the other though. You are just showing they are more similar than we think. which is quite frightening.[/quote]
I don’t have a way to truncate parts of a post i reply. If it exists here, lmk. So, I’ll reply as time allows and since I’ve already posted much on this elsewhere, I may begin reposting some of that here, because I’ve said it all before and said it better. Anyway, even in that intro post, parts of may have seen odd because it was really just an adapted version of another post elsewhere. That elsewhere is Ron Paul Forums btw, where the level of resistance to what I’m saying is worse than here, but over the years, I think I’ve convinced most of them either that I’m right or to explore the fairly vast but largely forgotten and unpromoted (outside of Catholic circles, or in about a 60-year era in American history, neither of which is taught in public schools) - without the propaganda being tied into it, poisoning it. The capitalists, over decades, poisoned messages and language, and rework ed concepts into new understandings which were formulated suit their purposes. One overriding concept they enforced was the false dichtomy between their separate but concurrently-driven projects in the East (their communism) and the West (their capitalism). Which is why these two manifestations of their schema never went to war againt one another, and fought to defeat their common enemy, in WW II.
There are so many examples of that, and it has really corrupted the Western mind and stripped it of having the ability to comprehend properly the way our ancestors thought about these things. Just one seeminly off-topic but not exemple happening now is the DNC protests. They are not PURELY representing the Palestinian or human rights causes. They are lacing the joint so to speak. Lacing that joint with LGBT and with “reproductive rights”, unnatural evils which the Palestinian people abhor. This is why a candidate like Jill Stein is having problems finding a real Palestinian to be her running mate. I digress.
1) “Capitaism requires infinite growth” - alas, that is only partially the case. It does not require infinite growth for the capitalists. It only requires infinite growth for the masses to participate in the capitalist system, and have them able to perceive (illusory) that they are “getting ahead”, or that they are beneficiaries of the capitalist phenomenon. That is the framework for “trickle down” theory. Yet, even “trickle down”, as outdated as it is today, but still somehow convincing in the 1970s-1990s, in its own axioms defines the controller and the the controlled. Those who partake in trickle down - as it is insinuated, are the LOWER “classes”. The peons. And the master peons (the mid-management class) of white collar ENABLERS of the capitalists. They are the worker ants who work for the capitalist just like an indentured servant, with the only difference being that they are indentured to the system, that system being a group of capitalists, and these capitalists can “trade” indentured servants between themselves, which imbues the servant with a false sense of freedom. That false sense of freedom impacts the man into acccepting new (foreign to his ancestors) realities. These new realities are nefarious, anti-family, anti-freedom, and they frustrate the man, and weaken his spirit, and reduce his time for knowledge accumulation, and for natural cooperation with his cultural peer group.
Instead of working together with his peer group, cooperating, he becomes an instrument of the capitalist. His friends and neighbors, they work for another capitalist. All the time, both serve only the interests of the capitalists, and the losing capitalist never truly loses. He can always turn to financial laws and mergers and procedures to preserve HIS capital, and access the line of credit to ensure HIS participation in the system as a head capitalist, but the worker, he cannot. He must turn to the Government for aid and assistance, temporarily or permanently. Thus, there is one example of how capitalism creates a socialist need. Another new reality is the full-time “career” woman. This “career” woman has less children for the man and herself - and for the peer group, for example, the White European. The children they do have are not raised in the same manner as they always were in the past. Their needs are now supplemented by the Goverment in schools and programs. That Government is then altered by the capitalists to inculcate philosophies into the masses which are chosen by the capitalists’ masters - the bankers. The bankers, in history, ARE the capitalists, by definition. Later, especially in the 19th century, the bankers separated themselves from the public spheres. They began to hide in secret clubs and set up their own “beards”, like J.P. Morgan, the Rockefellers, the Vanderbilts, and so on. By the early 20th century, after the installation of the Federal Reserve System in “THE UNITED STATES”, the first program was to BURN the hot 1920’s stock market - why? Why did they do that?
I’ll tell you why. They did it to consolidate ownership AWAY from the public which owned the majority of stock. Remember, in the 1920’s, the so-called Roaring Twenties, America still felt very much free. The dollar was strong. Unlearned and unskilled laborers could still afford to buy land and houses on their own WITH NO MORTGAGE, in cash – and only after 1-3 years of saving. For example. My grandfather inherited a strip of plots in Rhode Island from his immigrant, NON-ENGLISH speaking, laborer Italian father. That father’s brothers, they owned the strips of plots on the other side of the road. Each of these plots was only $25-$50. Within walking distance of the city. The same plots today, where they exist, are $200,000. This Italian immigrant great-grandfather of mine didn’t even become an American citizen until the 1920s despite the fact that he came here as a boy in the 1890’s. As a matter of fact, it was his father who brought him, and when he bought some of the plots, in the 1890’s, they were only $25 !!! And when they needed money in a spot, they had their OWN “banks”, because drug stores, clubs, and even barrooms doubled as banks. Healthcare was provided by the Church and by Christian charity. This was all gradually stripped away by the Federal Reserve System and the weaponisation of capital and government. Even as late as the 1940’s, AFTER WW II, land outside the perimeters of urban sprawl was so cheap, you know why? Because the CAPITALISTS did not move all the Negroes north yet. The Negroes were bussed into northern cities to BUST THEM UP for political reasons. They drove out the Irish, Germans, Italians, English, from the cities (beautiful stately Victorian houses all kept immaculately) and broke their neighborhoods, driving them out into a new frontier - the SUBURBS. Then, what made the suburbs possible (read: commutable, since by now, with the highways being built in the 50s-70s, everyone is a capitalist worker ant, and they NEED to be able to COMMUTE to “work” every day. So, the land that was a little too far from the city, to want to commute every day, and for wifey to shop at the new “supermarkets” was only going for $25/acre in the latter 1940s.
The point is that the common, uneducated but hard-working man could BUILD/BUY HOUSE, LAND, for essential mere MONTHS of savings, at most, perhaps, in some cases, like 1 or 2 years. Things young people today can only obtain by BEGGING the Government or Bank to obtain were obtained by mere moons of labor PAID IN FULL! To that note, I’m going to share here a long post I made about how this affects EVERYONE in the world today. Because LOAN DISTRIBUTION among countries - LOAN PENETRATION absolutely DESTROYS home ownership rates. You would think the more loans, the more access to money, the more home ownership. NOPE ! The opposite is the case. But that’s for another time.
So, in the 1920’s U.S., there was a great EXCESS of capital because participation in the system was young and the stock market ROARED. Meanwhile the CAPITALISTS, over in London, Weimar Germany, and with their puppets in New York, they said to themselves, “This is Not Good for Us”. There is too much distribution of capital and power. We must break it up and bust it open, creating chaos (creative destruction, also termed academically as deconstructionism), and we can pick up the pieces for ourselves, thereby consolidating our ownership of it all, while the people will be driven into depression, and they will turn to the Government for programs which, in turn, the Government will turn to US for our capital, since we have been granted the fiat to produce new capital by merely writing it into existence. This is what the Great Depression and the beginning of Socialism was all about. The most perceptive and non-foolable cotemporaries were the Catholics and Germans, which is why they became enemies of the capitalists.
I want to end for now because this post is too long. I’ll leave you with a quote from Theodor Fritsch (another forbidden author):
“When Sombart says: “Capitalism is born from the money-loan”, I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;”
The same situation occured in England, but it occurred earlier, because the capitalists owned it long before they owned America, they have to take over America. The destitution of Victorian England and before, in the Regency, is DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTABLE to the nascent usurious and Jewish owned banks, and addiction to this fraudulently-obtained and legalised fractional-reserve lending which was spurred on to war against Catholic countries. Which all goes directly to the Rothschilds, Sassoons, and Warburgs and others with the House of Hanover and William of Orange, from the “Netherlands” to England, and it was only in the Netherlands because the Netherlands wasn’t Catholic anymore, after its revolution and Eighty Years War. That’s when they first derived these schemes, and it led to them really going forward with the Illuminati project and plan to take over England, and the world… ok, one last thing about “infinite growth” being required for capitalism - I said it wasn’t required FOR THE CAPITALIST - it was only required for the common man to PERCEIVE benefit from the capitalist “economy”. The capitalists, and their banker bosses, they don’t need it. They have REPLACED growth with INFLATION because inflation straps up the government to them, and drives up the value of their assets. Once that perimeter closes, all they have to do (as they are doing NOW) is to pass along the bare necessities of life to the common man, and keep him entertained with vices, passions and distractions, and give him only “apparent” choices in leadership, and break down the ability of that leadership to EVER affect CAPITALIST interests by keeping it preoccupied with intentional crises and directed lobbyists.
