We know our bodies are run on current and effected by EMF and other things such as cosmic rays so that would be a very good synopsis that we have issues from many things we have and are being exposed over the hundreds or thousands of years.[/quote]
Like building a house, you don’t start with the roof and work down … you start from the foundation and work up. The roof in this case is the alien origin of this … I don’t have a problem with anything that can be verified - so, let’s build upwards.
The Sumerian texts talk about Humans being transformed into slaves and so it would have to be Neanderthals that were upgraded. They also talked about many experiments so who knows what they have tried to do with many things. I believe many of our historical myths were either other aliens OR experiments from the Anunaki.
The Sumerian texts talk about Humans being transformed into slaves and so it would have to be Neanderthals that were upgraded. They also talked about many experiments so who knows what they have tried to do with many things. I believe many of our historical myths were either other aliens OR experiments from the Anunaki.[/quote]
Do you have any references to read?
What is needed boils down to a reason life / humans became bipedal beginning “around” 3 - 4 million years ago. The only reason for this is that ET is also bipedal … and the direction we went was the exact same direction they went - bipedal and intelligent. Everything else out there remained an animal.
What is needed boils down to a reason life / humans became bipedal beginning “around” 3 - 4 million years ago. The only reason for this is that ET is also bipedal … and the direction we went was the exact same direction they went - bipedal and intelligent. Everything else out there remained an animal.
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I never took the time to put any of the texts I have read into in any type of easy to see categories.
I never took the time to put any of the texts I have read into in any type of easy to see categories. [/quote]
I’m a “notes” fan myself … which is why I like PDFs over books - 99 times out of 100 they’re easy to make an MS Word Doc file to make notes.
It’s also great when you get old and you develop CRS … Can’t Remember SH*T -
I’m a “notes” fan myself … which is why I like PDFs over books - 99 times out of 100 they’re easy to make an MS Word Doc file to make notes.
It’s also great when you get old and you develop CRS … Can’t Remember SH*T - [/quote]
Man, what I would give to have an idyllic memory.
I’m often reminded how I’ve forgotten way more stuff than I remember.
Just the other day I couldn’t recall my post code [where I’ve lived for 22 years]
Research has shown that cannabis stops the plaque that’s associated with Alzheimers from attaching to brain nerve cells.
I’ll have to have a few more pipes daily just in case it’s early on-set Alzheimers.
I’m a “notes” fan myself … which is why I like PDFs over books - 99 times out of 100 they’re easy to make an MS Word Doc file to make notes.
It’s also great when you get old and you develop CRS … Can’t Remember SH*T - [/quote]
We Have a Real UFO Problem. And It’s Not Balloons.
America’s fixation on the recent objects floating over the country overlooks a much more serious problem with advanced technology aircraft that we can’t explain.
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The Navy has officially acknowledged 11 near misses with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena that required evasive action and triggered mandatory safety reports between 2004 and 2021. | Alex Brandon/AP Photo
By RYAN GRAVES
02/28/2023 04:30 AM EST
Ryan Graves, a former Navy fighter pilot and engineer, chairs the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics’ UAP Integration & Outreach Committee. He is the founder of the new non-profit Americans for Safe Aerospace (www.safeaerospace.org).
On a clear, sunny day in April 2014, two F/A-18s took off for an air combat training mission off the coast of Virginia. The jets, part of my Navy fighter squadron, climbed to an altitude of 12,000 and steered towards Warning Area W-72, an exclusive block of airspace ten miles east of Virginia Beach. All traffic into the training area goes through a single GPS point at a set altitude — almost like a doorway into a massive room where military jets can operate without running into other aircraft. Just at the moment the two jets crossed the threshold, one of the pilots saw a dark gray cube inside of a clear sphere — motionless against the wind, fixed directly at the entry point. The jets, only 100 feet apart, zipped past the object on either side. The pilots had come so dangerously close to something they couldn’t identify that they terminated the training mission immediately and returned to base.
“I almost hit one of those damn things!” the flight leader, still shaken by the incident, told us shortly after in the pilots’ ready room. We all knew exactly what he meant. “Those damn things” had been plaguing us for the previous eight months.
I joined the U.S. Navy in 2009 and underwent years of rigorous training as a pilot. Specifically, we are trained to be expert observers in identifying aircraft with our sensors and our own eyes. It’s our job to know what’s in our operating area. That’s why, in 2014, after upgrades were made to our radar system, our squadron made a startling discovery: There were unknown objects in our airspace.
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Initially, the objects were showing up on our newly upgraded radars and we assumed they were “ghosts in the machine,” or software glitches. But then we began to correlate the radar tracks with multiple surveillance systems, including infrared sensors that detected heat signatures. Then came the hair-raising near misses that required us to take evasive action.
These were no mere balloons. The unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) accelerated at speeds up to Mach 1, the speed of sound. They could hold their position, appearing motionless, despite Category 4 hurricane-force winds of 120 knots. They did not have any visible means of lift, control surfaces or propulsion — in other words nothing that resembled normal aircraft with wings, flaps or engines. And they outlasted our fighter jets, operating continuously throughout the day. I am a formally trained engineer, but the technology they demonstrated defied my understanding.
After that near-miss, we had no choice but to submit a safety report, hoping that something could be done before it was too late. But there was no official acknowledgement of what we experienced and no further mechanism to report the sightings — even as other aircrew flying along the East coast quietly began sharing similar experiences. Our only option was to cancel or move our training, as the UAP continued to maneuver in our vicinity unchecked.
Nearly a decade later we still don’t know what they were.
When I retired from the Navy in 2019, I was the first active-duty pilot to come forward publicly and testify to Congress. In the years since, there has been some notable coverage of the encounters and Congress has taken some action to force the military and intelligence agencies to do much more to get to the bottom of these mysteries.
But there has not been anything near the level of public and official attention that has been paid to the recent shoot downs of a Chinese spy balloon and the three other unknown objects that were likely research balloons.
And that’s a problem.
Advanced objects demonstrating cutting-edge technology that we cannot explain are routinely flying over our military bases or entering restricted airspace.
“UAP events continue to occur in restricted or sensitive airspace, highlighting possible concerns for safety of flight or adversary collection activity,” the Director of National Intelligence reported last month, citing 247 new reports over the last 17 months. “Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, without discernible means of propulsion.”
The Navy has also officially acknowledged 11 near misses with UAP that required evasive action and triggered mandatory safety reports between 2004 and 2021. **** Advanced UAP also pose a growing safety hazard to commercial airliners. Last May, the Federal Aviation Administration issued an alert after a passenger aircraft flying over West Virginia experienced a rare failure of two major systems while passing underneath what appeared to be a UAP.
One thing we do know is these craft aren’t part of some classified U.S. project. “We were quite confident that was not the explanation,” Scott Bray, the deputy director of the Office of Naval Intelligence, testified before Congress last year.
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Florida Sen. Marco Rubio confirmed in a recent interview that whatever the origin of these objects it is not the U.S. military. “We have things flying over our military bases and places where we’re conducting military exercises and we don’t know what it is and it isn’t ours,” said Rubio, who is vice chair of the Intelligence Committee.
President Joe Biden rightly points out the real national security and aviation safety risks, from “foreign intelligence collection” to “hazard to civilian air traffic,” that arise from low-tech “balloon-like” entities. I applaud his new order to create an interagency UAP taskforce and a government-wide effort to address unidentified objects, and his proposal to make sure all aerial craft are registered and identifiable according to a global standard is good common-sense.
However, what the president did not address during his press conference Feb. 16 were the UAP that exhibit advanced performance capabilities. Where is the transparency and urgency from the administration and Congress to investigate highly advanced objects in restricted airspace that our military cannot explain? How will this new taskforce be more effective than existing efforts if we are not being clear and direct about the scope and nature of advanced UAP?
The American public must demand accountability. We need to understand what is in our skies — period.
In the coming days, I will launch Americans for Safe Aerospace (ASA), a new advocacy organization for aerospace safety and national security. ASA will support pilots and other aerospace professionals who are reporting UAP. Our goal is to demand more disclosure from our public officials about this significant safety and national security problem. We will provide credible voices, public education, grassroots activism and lobbying on Capitol Hill to get answers about UAP.
President Biden needs to address this issue as transparently as possible. The White House should not conflate the low-tech objects that were recently shot down with unexplained high-tech, advanced objects witnessed by pilots. Our government needs to admit that it is possible another country has developed game-changing technology. We need to urgently address this threat by bringing together the best minds in our military, intelligence, science and tech sectors. If advanced UAP are not foreign drones, then we absolutely need a robust scientific inquiry into this mystery. Obfuscation and denial are a recipe for more conspiracy theories and greater distrust that stymie our search for the truth.
We need a coordinated, data-driven response that unites the public and private sectors. The North American Aerospace Defense Command, the U.S. Space Force and a host of other military and civilian agencies need to be marshaled in support of a much more aggressive and vigilant effort, along with our scientific community and private industry.
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Right now, the pieces of the UAP puzzle are scattered across silos in the military, government and the private sector. We need to integrate and analyze these massive data sets with new methods like AI. We also need to make this data available to the best scientists outside of government.
We have strong supporters of more data sharing. Sen. Rubio has suggested the Pentagon’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), which was set up by Congress last year, share its data on unidentified objects with academic institutions and civilian scientific organizations. The American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics and the Galileo Project at Harvard, tech startups like Enigma Labs, and traditional defense contractors could all play a role.
Unfortunately, all UAP reports and videos are classified, meaning active-duty pilots cannot come forward publicly and FOIA requests are denied. These are two major steps backwards for transparency, but they can be mitigated with data-sharing.
I am impressed by the recent whistleblower protections enacted last year to encourage more pilots and others to come forward, and I support the fresh push by Rubio and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) for full funding of AARO. Given the stakes, Congress also needs to fund grants for more scientific inquiry of UAP.
Above all, we need to listen to pilots. Military and civilian pilots provide critical, first-hand insights into advanced UAP. Right now, the stigma attached to reporting UAP is still too strong. Since I came forward about UAP in 2019, only one other pilot from my squadron has gone public. Commercial pilots also face significant risks to their careers for doing so.
New rules are needed to require civilian pilots to report UAP, protect the pilots from retribution, and a process must be established for investigating their reports. Derision or denial over the unknown is unacceptable. This is a time for curiosity.
If the phenomena I witnessed with my own eyes turns out to be foreign drones, they pose an urgent threat to national security and airspace safety. If they are something else, it must be a scientific priority to find out.
I’m back … I needed time off because people drive me nutz. On top of all that, I was getting into Dr LaViolette’s work on mythology and subquantum kinetics, had questions - and - he died last December.
glad to see ya back! that sucks he died. hopefully we can read his works though.
and i hear ya about people driving ya nuts. people have lost their damn minds. that’s what I think. pull up a chair here though. It’s different! and quit the break from the world in a way
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and i hear ya about people driving ya nuts. people have lost their damn minds. that’s what I think. [/quote]
I’ve watched the younger generation changes since the '50s (when it was innocent) … and I’d swear it has to do with genetic screw-ups to their children from all the illegal drugs taken since the 60s, generation after generation. Then the kids did drugs growing up, had families, and it’s gone on since then. 70 years later - here we are.
Because this subject has been SO screwed up with beliefs and unverified ideas, I thought I’d just post this text from Landi and David’s book ‘The Other Sky.’
The idea is, she is the only person I have ever read that has the same picture I do, just not too detailed except for the help aspect. She’s a few years older than me, and had her first experience in '51. What make this all so interesting is that after this experience - everything that happened after that was paranormal and designed to confuse her - which they did (ALL David’s experiences were paranormal). It was later in her life this “Nordic” popped up again briefly, and just told her to remember what he said originally (she was WAY off track at that time).
Anyway, here’s the base text:
But before we go, I want you to look at the sky. He turned his eyes upward. The night sky hued into an ominous blood red as a vacuum of total silence engulfed me. Not a cricket sang, not a leaf rustled. My eyes were riveted to the heavens. An electrically charged atmosphere surrounded us, seemingly stretched to its limit, like a rubber band on the verge of snapping apart. I felt an uneasiness that at any second the sky would crack open like a delicate egg. Although I was only seven, from the deepest recesses of my soul erupted a knowingness of a catastrophic future event for planet Earth. I knew time was running out. Urgency was upon us. The tall being’s voice once again brought me back to the present. If you see the sky such as this, you will know we are coming.
…
Later in her life the Nordic popped up and told her:
“Be prepared! came a pervading voice. There will be severe climate changes that will seem to happen instantaneously. You have been told that this will come to pass!”
…
All of this (even though we haven’t experienced an event like this in 15,000 rounded years and haven’t seen one) would connect to the arrival of Dr LaViolette’s galactic superwave. There will be “climate changes” - and things are going to happen that have never happened before. Why? Because of our electronic society. The EMP alone should fry that, and I don’t even want to think about the 400+ nuclear power plants we have running.
The bottom line is simply - this is why we now have a “UFO / ET” subject … and no, I don’t believe in “bad aliens.” If they show up and basically say it’s time to go … what you do is up to you. Like Landi was told … the picture boils down to:
“You always have a choice. We will never force you. If conditions require that we do return to remove some of your population, there will be no time for deciding then. You will either immediately come with us, or you will not. Therefore, think carefully on this.”
very very interesting words highlander. always been fascinated by the potential for aliens. especially if they are watching or have visited. I do believe we are not alone in this universe. especially just in our galaxy. perhaps even in our quadrant! the distances are just SOOO vast, it’s damn near impossible to make contact
It’s a highly screwed up story. We had the info needed to pass down through the generations … but, it was lost thanks to religious controllers that took over. Today all we have is a multi-variation story we call the end times. Wherever you look - it’s just another version.
Then - if you look at OUR religious history outline since writing, there was no end times story from Egypt to the middle east. That didn’t pop up here until the Zoroastrian religion materialized, and the source for that was the Aryans. So … why is it the Aryans had SOME variation of this story, but everyone else in that area didn’t?
Then the Semitic people got hold of it, they invented a whole new version that eventually led to Jesus being the hero.
so just to ask here. are there any versions of aliens that don’t include religion? because I’m not a religious person at all and a lot of this alien stuff always ends up with people going off on a tangent about the bible or god or something and tbh it’s kind of annoying. I want to talk about aliens! not religion ya know??? why does that end up happening a lot?
